Let’s take the re-bedding of ridge tiles onto a roof as a prime example. Mix mortar in a clean bucket. Take care to mix all the way to the bottom of the bucket and scrape the edges to make sure that no powder, lumps or clumps remain. Other important factors for good quality mortar are listed below…. A quick word of caution, using an additive isn’t a guarantee of an magically improved mix or an excuse to be negligent with the basics. It has a great list of positives but will reduce your working time to about 10 – 15 Minutes at a time. Yes, finally we’re getting somewhere. Dump in half of the bag of mortar mix. Normally when working with a sand and cement mortar this would mean something with as little flex and movement as possible, preferably with a rough or porous  surface to provide the cement with some grip. It has a varied particle size and shape without silt or clay, and it doesn’t have the very large stones found in ballast and used for concrete. I can guarantee without any real experience or knowledge anyone can mix cement mortar that on first sight will look the business. Harsh building sand – Getting to know which merchant sells what type of building sand can be the key to a nice job with a building sand mix. Lets take re-laying ridge tiles as a prime example, the ridge tiles and the roof tiles will have a fine surface water on them, and if the tiles are old and slightly surface porous the concrete will be damp internally too. All rounder – Evo-Stik Seriously Better Cement – This is great. Make a crater in the middle of the mix, and add a bucket of water and the appropriate amount of lime or mortar additive. Add 3/4 of total water needed for the measured amount of grout powder. Beware of relying on this though, if the weather is hot or dry, the roof tiles or bricks you are working with may want to suck the moisture from your mix, resulting in a damaged, weakened mortar and possible cracks. A forum community dedicated to professional construction and remodeling contractors. (Think peanut butter consistency.) I will lay my cards out on the table right now, I’m not a fan of cement dyes or colourants in mortar when used on a roof or ridge line. 4. Add the proper amount of cement and lime and mix thoroughly, until the streaks disappear. A dry surface like bricks or concrete tiles will draw moisture from your mortar (sucking off), and this in normal conditions may be bearable. The key to working on a showery day for me is correct task, spotting a window of opportunity, and the use of additives such as fast drying cement, which you can see below in the information about mortar additives. Personally I don’t do that, but you have to respect that kind of dedication. Many frost proofers alone are not yet recognised by British or European building standards, this doesn’t mean they don’t work… Just saying. Never stop learning. When you have a 30 pound bag of mortar, like Laticrete MVIS Veneer Mortar, and you add their recommended 5.9 quarts of cold water to the entire bag, you get two things: Often a good key with ridge tiles will mean that you have visible gaps between both the ridges tiles where they touch each other, or the ridges and the roof itself. As a rule of thumb anything below 5 degrees centigrade and you are asking for trouble with mortar or concrete. Make sure that your sand is suitable for the task in hand, keep your mortar fresh and in good condition, and don’t allow your substrate to be too dry if possible. Install the mixer attachment on your drill and tighten the drill chuck to hold the it firmly. Ive done a search on the internet with results of nothing. A bit like making a cup of tea could be if you did the same. If you’re using this in any capacity it normally means you are a professional, by that I mean that time is money and you can’t wait, or it’s an emergency. The mortar should slowly “sag” from the margin trowel after it has been mixed. In the summer however dry arid air combined with heat can compromise the strength of the mortar and cause cracking, as well as cracking away from the surfaces you are trying to bond to, especially in exposed places like the top of a roof. Plasticiser – Febmix , there’s a good reason it’s referred to as the original… its been around ages and it works. (more cement additives further down). Mix in powdered latex bonding agent, an additive commonly used to turn any type of mortar into a stickier, flexible finished product. Waterproofer – If you’re looking for a waterproofing agent for mortar, have a look at ‘Sika Waterproofer’. After 15 minutes, give the thinset another slow stir with the drill. What this means is the tiles will not want to suck moisture from any mortar it contacts with. With brickwork, like the pointing of a wall or chimney, an old sandy mix will compromise the bond between the top surface of the bricks and the old mortar itself. Attach your mixing drill bit to your hand drill. MY friend was doing a fencing job with a friend of his and told me of this bucket that this other guy had that is about the size of a 5 gallon that has a screw on lid. Cement mortar mixed in a bucket, top view. the brickwork or roof tiles. There is however quite a few basic steps you can take to seriously improve nearly any standard cement mortar mix, without having to get too fancy, start adding lime, or getting too technical. Finishing trowel and mortar bucket with cement bag background. essentially three parts of sand for every one part of cement But on showery days it can be possible to work with sand and cement for small repair work, such as re-setting a ridge tile or two, or small patch pointing jobs. This may well cut short the life of the pointing unless an excellent key is made, possibly leaving re-bedding as a more sensible option. What happens is that not only has the brick or tile become very dry making it absorb water like a sponge, but the hot sun and ambient heat evaporates the water away from it and into the air, leaving it thirsty for more water, and so on. Damp misty days – Often seen around autumn, These conditions are the gold standard for me. Bucket Mix – Everyone should know how to do one of these, it’s simple, cheap and useful. The phrase ‘a good key’ is often referred to when trying to get any sort of render or pointing to stick to a substrate like a wall, brickwork or ridge tiles. Sometimes I get asked by home owners why my mortar doesn’t crack or crumble, and how it stays stuck. An example of this would be for instance if we were doing a small bucket mix with a brick layers trowel… 1 third trowel of quick drying, 2 thirds standard OPC and three full trowels of sand, which still gives a ratio of 3 to 1, but depending on the weather a drying and working time of 20 mins +. Mortar Mixing Procedure Use a dry bucket to measure out the materials. Mixing cement mortar is easy, however mixing a mortar that will stay stuck to what you’re doing is a whole new thing. There are also many other mortar additives and combinations of various properties such as waterproofing, accelerants, (speed up drying) retardation, (slow drying) frost proofing, salt inhibitors, bonding agents, cement dyes and frost proofing, to name but a few. Mortar should not be stronger than the material that you are working with as a rule of thumb. As you can imagine the weather conditions on the day you are working with any sort of sand and cement mix will have an great influence on not only what you can do, but the end result. Sandy substrates – In the main picture we can see the mortar bed of a removed ridge tile has turned back into sand. Cement ratios – If you look closely you will see that the same sand cement ratio has probably been used for the chimney that was used for the rest of the house, which is only 9 years old. If you think of a plastic surface as a very bad example of a substrate, initially it may provide a bond to the mortar, but when it dries and you were to flex the plastic in any way it would quickly peel off and fall to the floor. Stacker, I know a lot of old guys who do that for fence posts as well. The latex additive functions exactly like the premixed latex mortar, but you can vary its stickiness factor by changing the amount of latex you add to the mortar. If you are doing any sort of pointing up, ridge tile bedding, or any sort of mortar work it can dry out too fast and be damaged, crack, or crack away from what you’re trying to bond the mortar to. Come join the discussion about the industry, trades, safety, projects, finishing, tools, machinery, styles, scales, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! In the large picture you can clearly see there was no ‘key’ for any pointing to grip onto. I can tell you it definitely worked as the render is still there and the bond is fantastic 10 years later. This is an area that is so often overlooked by DIY’ers, and some of the trade occasionally. Sharp sand – Sometimes, when for instance flaunching the top of a chimney stack or bedding tiles or slates to a Verge, a large mass of very strong and weather resistant mortar is required. Earnest T. Bass, http://www.contractortalk.com/showthread.php?t=8997, https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kamps-MasonryConcrete-Countertop-Design/231566206923069, http://www.concretecountertopsdesign.com/, http://ok.local.yahoo.biz/knabemasonry/index.html, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Or very occasionally 1  Wash sand, 1 Building sand, and 1 Cement. After your ingredients are poured out, mix them together while they are still dry. This is the thing you are actually trying to stick the mortar to, so as you can imagine it is a little important. I could see it working if youre only using it for VERY small jobs. Even though it’s a very strong mix, shrinkage cracks have ruined the finished job. A better method may be to mix quick drying cement with standard cement to allow more working time for small repairs. If the mortar on your trowel doesn't drip off but can be shaken off, you have the right ratio. If you can afford to wait for perfect, or near perfect weather conditions it’s a good idea to try. This cuts down on the amount of airborne particles. I don't suppose it would mix mortar very well though as the sand and mortar wouldn't blend all that well. 3. A square-notch trowel is the best tool for the job. Sometimes if the original mortar mix has been cement weak, compromised by poor additives or other factors, it may not only be weak, but start to crumble and return back to a sand like state. A dry substrate more often than not occurs during the summer months in the UK. The truth is most of it is just really common sense, it just looks like a big list when written down. I know you may be thinking does anyone really go to this much trouble over sand for goodness sake? … How to Mix small amount of Sand Cement Mortar by hand … How to mix cement. The amount of water used can vary drastically depending upon the weather, how wet the sand is, and the variety of mix you're using, so read … Let the mortar sit undisturbed for about 3-5 minutes to allow the fine aggregate in the mix to fully … If you are tiling a countertop or the floor of a small to medium-sized room, you can mix the mortar by hand. Pretty efficient. All building sands are not created equal. Secondly, it will also have had an extremely drying effect on the substrate you are working with, more so if it has been dry for a few days running. Firstly and most obviously the sun will heat up the mortar you are working with, both in the bucket or on a spot. In the smaller picture you can see that the large gaps will provide much better adhesion, once the mortar hardens into the nooks and crannies. Slow and steady really does win the race. Consider the use of a hand held water sprayer on any surfaces you are attempting to bond the mortar to on roofing jobs. It is still however a 3 : 1 mix, add a good plasticiser and you’re done…. Prepare a container with a flat, solid surface base and tall sides for mixing mortar, if mixing by hand. Place the recommended amount of powdered filling mortar mix in the bucket. Measure out the grout powder and pour it into the empty bucket. Quite often these days a bag of off the shelf building sand here in the UK will be required to meet a British standard, which can mean that the particles of sand are a specific size and shape. Great for brickwork, chimneys or roof details like flashings. Here are two videos of how to mix a cement mortar. bag? The damp air also ensures that the mortar will cure much slower, and this is great news for the adhesion and strength of the cure as a whole. Step 2. Sunny hot weather – This can be as bad as constant rain for some jobs. Let’s take a look at some important factors that will directly affect the quality, bond, and longevity of your mortar or roofing mortar. Cracks in ridge tile cement – I know this is nitpicking, but it illustrates the principle perfectly. . Typically they may have done small repair works around the home like pointing gaps in crazy paving, only to find it has cracked or crumbled on them at a later stage. It will also heat up, or already have made hot the very thing you are sticking the mortar too, i.e. If you’ve just read this article and you aren’t connected with the building trade you may be thinking this is a hell of a lot to take in, or it’s really complicated. of this stuff does anyone know how many gallons or quarts or cups of mortar is in a 50lb. Plasticises, improves bond and frost proofs all in one. If you think of concrete as a good example of a strong mix, and you examine the ballast that is mixed with cement to form the concrete itself, you would notice a huge variation in aggregate size and shape. This is also true for other jobs like gaps in paving slabs, although the depth may need to be deeper. Step 1: Add Water To the Mixing Bucket. bucket. With my brain switched off because I’m making a video, I put way too much water in the dry mix in one go, ‘flooding the mix’. Fine building sand – A highly processed fine sand like those often found in large DIY chains can be just the job for brickwork pointing, brickwork repairs, or thinly re-bedding ridge tiles onto slate as an example. If used in a large mass you risk cracking as the mortar hardens when used for pointing large gaps, or bedding ridge tiles onto profiled tiles as an example. Yes it’s not nice to work in, but the chances are that any substrate you are working with will be inherently damp. 2.Blend the dry material together until it's a uniform color. The trouble is often the building sand has been processed and all the jagged irregular shaped particles have been removed, or it may contain elements of silt or clay that haven’t been washed out either. How to Save Mortar for Later. However, if you mix washed sand into a finer builders sand it can become usable for trowel work like cement flashings, big deep chases, and re-bedding ridge tiles on profiled roof tiles. Watching the weather forecast on the television the evening before doing any cement or mortar work will pay dividends here. In this last picture, you see the mortar in the bucket … A ‘key’ – Here you can see the depth that the cement mortar has receded, if you can poke your fingers in 5 – 10mm + often that would be considered a large enough gap to accept fresh mortar and provide ‘a good key’ without additional measures, such as grinding out the old mortar with a chasing tool. By texture and visual cues, mix the mortar in a small batch in a paint tray or 5 gallon bucket until it has the consistency of creamy peanut butter. Here the large mass that is the ‘Flaunching’ to hold the pot in place has been done with standard building sand. bag of concrete to the water, and then mix with the drill, starting slowly and then speeding up. Often a mix made with sharp sand is used for other building jobs such as screeding floors, but it can be unusable and too harsh for any sort of detail work, like the pointing or relaying of ridge tiles. I have know builders to sieve their own sand by hand, and even ‘turn’ washed sand dry in a cement mixer for 10 – 15 minutes to knock some of the particles smaller or smoother. Because of the low temperature you may want to add a cement additive with frost protection, or mix a curing accelerant in with the mortar, although be aware many anti freeze additives are not recognised by British or European building standards. Sharp sand, or washed sand as it is often known fits the bill here. Glazed substrates are what they sound like, if the surface is glazed or fired smooth any minute roughness in the surface is normally lost. Chimney Flaunching – This is a good example of the wrong mix for the job. Often with me this will involve juggling jobs around the weather, or dropping off a job and going back to it on a more favourable day. In the case of working on a roof this can mean sitting ridge tiles in bucket of water for 5 minutes before use and wetting the surface of the roof where the tiles will mate repeatedly with a bucket of water and a wet brush, or a hand held water sprayer. Mixing a small sand and cement bucket mix like this by hand is not only fast, but very cheap for small DIY jobs around the house. A bag of mortar should be mixed with about three gallons of clean water to achieve the right consistency. If not, any old mortar should be pecked out (removed). The device you are looking for is a called a small job mixer or short job mixer. Working in the rain with a mortar mix will not only be miserable but is totally impractical, especially on a roof. Step 1. I got one for 50¢ at a garage sale once. I cannot say for sure that it weakens the mix prematurely, and would probably be sued if I did. Unfortunately if you use this type of sand for every job, it may not be fit for purpose. i know how to mix concrete and all guys done plenty of it i was just curious if anyone had seen one of these things seems kinda interesting ya know. When a ridge or hip tile is bedded onto the roof, the thickness of the mortar bed determines how high the ridge tile will sit above the roof tiles, the bigger the distance is between the ridge and the roof, the more mortar mass it will take to fill the gap. I've been taking it outside and spraying the outside with a hose, then spray the inside and dump the gray water under the deck until clean enough to finish off with a few paper towels. bond. If you were to consider an old fashioned lock and key, now you imagine the key entering the lock and turning 90º left or right into a position where if you tried to pull the key out it would be stuck, if you can achieve that basic principle with a nice strong mortar it will be very hard to remove, even if the adhesive bond isn’t as good as it should be. Or maybe someone has a ratio of mix like 5 part mortar to 1 part water or something. If you are using a dry mix, this will be as easy as cutting open the bags and pouring them out onto the sheet or tray. Using a 5 gallon bucket add about ¾ of the required water to the bucket. Using the trowel or garden hoe, create a hole in the center of the mix. Sometimes work schedules or a long hot summer (occasionally they do happen) means that work has to press on regardless. 1. I cement additives myself especially in winter to guard against light frosts, but I would not rely on them 100%. All these smaller particles come together to fill in the gaps around the larger ones, and when they have a even coating of cement, that combination gives it its strength. if you insist on mixing your concrete,dont buy a 15 dollar bucket on ebay.go to sonic and ask for a pickle bucket,with the lid.its the same thing.but with that you are not going to mix enough concrete to make a damn.if you dont have a mixer,use a wheel borrow,and shovel. Keep Mortar for a Long Time. Another roofer, builder, plasterer or renderer may have their own opinions, or other great nuggets to share particular to their trade. Normal warm dry weather – Slightly overcast or weak sun, no showers, not too hot, and not freezing. Often this is used in a diluted form as mentioned below or seen in the diagram. This ratio of sand to cement is ideal for exposed areas such as the roof, without being stronger than the bricks or ridge tiles you are working with. It works, I suppose, but only in relation to NOT using any concrete at all. This is the thickest part of the mortar where fine ‘soft builders sand’ couldn’t cope. If you use pure quick drying cement in the usual ratio of 3 : sand and 1 : cement (quick dry) it may result in a mix that dries in 10 – 15 mins, so fast that even in very cold conditions you get very little time to use it. Playing with the amount of quick drying and standard cement will accelerate or delay the drying process. He said you put your mix in the add the water, flip it over and roll it around some and it mixes your concrete. It’s not cheap but is highly rated by the trade. Mix mortar in a wheelbarrow with a hoe in batches up to — cubic foot (about 71/2 gallons). You will need a five gallon bucket, a hand drill and mixer attachment, your bag of mortar and water. Mixing Mortar by Hand Find a platform or container to mix the mortar. Mix the cement in a small bucket for the construction beside the house. Wetting the bricks or tiles you are working with repeatedly with a hand held water sprayer can be an option on certain jobs, but on very hot days the surface temperatures can be too great for this to be effective. Step 3. What I will say is that over my extensive roofing career, I have been to repair the roofs of a disproportionate amount of new build houses that are either just outside of the NHBC guarantees, or have had failures within them. You can't solve you're problems with the same level of thinking that created the problems. The top countries of supplier is China, from which the percentage of mortar bucket supply is 100% respectively. These are all covered in this article in roughly this order…. In these circumstances you may need to make sure you have plenty of depth in the chase to make any pointing repair effective, and larger chases may benefit from a sharper type building sand also. The main reason for using quick drying cement in roofing is to avoid inclement weather like rain showers or impeding frost, in which case it can be a real boon if your back is to the wall. Not only does this give you greater control, but is cheaper too. Pre-wet mortar containers before filling them with fresh mortar. Any sort of dampness in the bricks or tiles that would normally help to slow down the cure of the mortar is now long gone, and you have the opposite effect, a super dry moisture sucking substrate that will rob your mortar of its water content prematurely and suck dry it. Well over 90% of these had cement dye used in them on the roof that was starting to crumble. The paddles are inexpensive and can be found in any hardware store that sells paint. Place the required amount of Mortar Mix into a wheelbarrow, plastic bucket or on a non-absorbent surface making a ‘well’ in the centre of the powder for the water 2. © 2020 Fixmyroof.co.uk - Privacy & Disclosures - Contact. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The small picture shows the exact same thing in an old wall. More often than not they wrongly assume the mix was too weak, or too strong. If this isn’t the case, often after the subsequent pointing of the ridges without a good key or quality sand cement mix, the result will be it falling out and down the roof very prematurely. Cold weather – Late autumn and winter in the UK. If you are grouting a large surface, start with a fraction of the total grout you will need, and mix in small batches so that the grout doesn’t dry out too quickly. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Mixing cement mortar is easy, however mixing a mortar that will stay stuck to what you’re doing is a whole new thing. Once the thinset is mixed, allow 15 minutes for the thinset to absorb the water. Ridge tiles – Here are two separate properties with the same roof tiles, and roughly the same year. 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