– Jeff. FYI, the oft-quoted 4% figure was derived using a 30 year retirement time horizon [1]. I have five professional degrees in subjects that I am passionate about to my core. We are a small religious order with a newly formed seminary wherein we would like to offer an eLearning option. I’m sure there would be possibilities in those for developing relationships with other instructors and promoting each others offerings. Recently I tried http://www.emagister.co.uk and I had a good results. Hi Linda – What you describe will require a more sophisticated solution than anything covered in this post. I sell them via my ems & website though, I haven’t yet began using their tools to sell via them as a course market place. A lot of other improvements have also been made. Rent out a room if you want to for more income. Thanks! You can sell license keys, pre-orders, and so much more online. What’s your thought on it? There is a company called http://www.uscreen.tv they also have an easy to use platform which enables you to sell courses online and setup a video subscription website, I know a few companies that use them. And depending on other factors, you might only get 25%. There’s nothing wrong with making a fortune selling courses on using a hula hoop, but I’ve been professional field researcher outside the USA for nearly 13 years. We include "target" seniority designations in the job post titles, so if it doesn't say "senior", "principal", etc, then it isn't a senior position. For example, Tony Robbins has his website, but then he sells his courses on Business-Mastery. My thoughts are this. In reviewing all the platforms available, what do you think about putting a single course on multiple platforms. I have a wordpress site and purchased webinar ignition (WI) under the assumption that I could record webinars and offer them through WI. You just have to move to a company where the people are proud to do SCRUM by the book, with reviews and retrospective (each one 4 hours long), Hoping this is hyperbole, but if your reviews or retrospectives are actually four hours long, you should politely point out that these do not need to be more than an hour (and many mature scrum teams do both in an hour total). I googled and thought I’d have to search on my own, and your list was first in line. 50 videos… Generally, 4% (inflation adjusted) is considered a safe withdraw rate. Thanks But most of them don’t offer true app-based delivery of those courses on mobile devices and none, other the ones listed in this section, support delivery into “over the top,” or OTT, channels like Apple TV, Roku, and FireTV. Thanks for providing resources, Jeff! Once a paid plan kicks in, pricing starts at $149 a month ($119 if paid annually). Also, if you happen to represent a trade or professional association, be sure to check out the LMS reviews on ReviewMyLMS. Why or why not? As if March 2016 New Kajabi is now available and definitely a platform worth checking out! The UI is clunky but the math is good. mainly because of their pricing structure. http://www.planningforfailure.com/post/63542124884/udemy-takes-more-from-instructors-censors-critics. Please let me know if you have any concerns about that - contact@creatorjobs.co. If you are really serious about running a digital products business – one that goes beyond just offering courses – then Kartra is a powerful solution. Thank you for posting this Jane and saving me the horror! I suppose that's one assumption to make. If you are ready to sell online courses and just want to get started fast (or already have, but are looking for new technology), be sure to check out the free Teachable Quickstart Webinar. The main issue with this is that every LMS does it a bit different, So, if you build your courses in the LMS, you will almost certainly have to re-build them when you move to a new LMS. Using longer time horizons will lower that number. I would like to set up a little business where I instruct the Instructors, shoot the course, direct and produce the videoclips, follow any marketing activity around the course. The Skillshare site reports that “Top teachers make up to $40,000 a year.”. Any suggestions? Any indication from you ? Thanks for noting. – Jeff, I teach for a large, well known (ahem, orange) online company. My needs seem to be a little different, and I hope you can be able to guide me. Thus, I had to turn to a video on YouTube to learn how to implement an evergreen e-mail marketing sequence. I’ve had to do this twice now and it was a non issue. A question for you: do you know which of these companies and systems will provide sales and distribution of my existing courses in my existing LMS? – Jeff, Yeah, true..I also come by cases – where people just have one specific unique need, which you could never imagine..Like translating course platform to Latvian language…. Do you have any knowledge of platforms specifically targeting creators and consumers of learning courses for children, k-8? Hi Jeff, Recently I tried expertlearn.com and I had a good results. Instead, most of them becomes the next Froogle, that probably shouldn’t have existed to begin with. Similar to the checklist for Azure AD which I recently published, this resource is designed to get you up and running quickly with what I consider to be a good “baseline” for most small and mid … This is something I’m definitely looking at working on in the future when I can finally have time for personal projects. They do all the work at the live events, you just have to do the teaching – they book it, promote it, provide staff, etc. That is, I suspect that many sport stars will at some moment of their life meet a "financial advisor" with references from fellow sport stars, who offers to take care of their finance, and they go "lucky me, now I can focus 100% on my training", only to find out later that the money is gone. ProductDyno has everything a digital product vendor needs, the platform provides an easy way to protect your products with no complex coding, no trying to 'hack' incompatible tools together and no pulling out your own hair in frustration. One of the most exciting developments in the tech world is the number of people who are learning to write code. Actually I wouldn't even call it meetings because we mostly don't even setup a schedule, it just naturally happens (for example chatting about a specific topic, then deciding a call would be easier / faster). From a course standpoint, Kartra will work best if your focus is on video content – it does not have the level of course creation, student management, or assessment capabilities that the more course-focused platforms covered here have. – jeff, This list is not comprehensive and needs to be updated. Based on that effort I can then forecast when it might get done. Also, you can’t expect their customer support to give support for something written in one of their blog posts. With enough starting money, it simply means not spending more than the interest you get (after adjusting for inflation). A resource you want us to highlight? Do other sites do market sellers content? (Unlike Udemy – discussed below – Skillshare sells subscriptions to all of its content rather than to individual courses.) We just launched a couple days ago and our online course marketplace niche is Man Skills or courses targeting men. So, here’s my all around top choice: Thinkific. Only pay when you start selling. It looks very user friendly (feels like a social media platform) and it has a lot of great features. Let’s say I start with Thinkific but a year from now ultimately decide to shift over to another platform like WordPress / Learndash or Kajabi. An easy way to pass the time? I was wondering if you have specific recommendations for platforms suitable for teaching language courses. Curious to hear what you think of their platform. I forgot how much $MEGACORP likes meetings. – Jeff, Hi! I already built my Elearning program and website with wishlist plugin, and all my videos are hosted on Vimeo. Hi can I publish my course in udemy and my website in same time ? I'm at a $MEGACORP and actively work to reduce meetings as much as possible. Update: Downloadable, printable copies of the Microsoft 365 Best practices checklists and guides are now available for purchase at GumRoad.Thanks for your support! Thanks for sharing , now checking all these links, Yes, how you promote/what kind of support you get is a significant factor. Thanks! Not sure how influential you are, but one thing I've noticed is that when meetings start to feel unproductive, its due to one of two reasons. Thanks Jeff for the info. Still a fairly conservative number for investments in equities. I’d like to create a site that offers hundreds of my courses for free – and monetize the site through advertising, referrals, etc. I recommend going with ConvertKit for your mailing list provider, incidentally. So, I sent them a reply stating that their e-mail address as well as their domain name was on my safe sender’s list and that I did not appreciate being lied to!!! Thanks for commenting, Ben. If you just sent a doc then you'd have to follow up, etc. Don’t forget the popular flextraining complete learning framework. So we are looking for new places to sell our ready made course online to gain a wider audience and sales. Thank you! Looking forward to your view regarding Edwiser. My company is ran similarly; though I never raised VC and bootstrapped my way to profitability over 5 years as a solo founder. EduGyaan is another company who provide better platform at low cos. Hi, I have already built an on-line course on wix which took many, many months, so I don’t want to re-write it and generally happy with the features. – Social networking and People Search for your clients to be connected and form teams Thanks, Nikki the Novice (even so dinosaur that I’m just now updating my own site to mobille). http://www.click4course.com. The Key to Avoiding Online Course Failure. But, they also fail to provide you with the resources to accomplish that task and thus, you have to turn to other service providers such as Mail Chimp and Timer Monkey to launch an e-mail marketing campaign. All courses are 4-6 lessons, and are presented over the course of a month. And then, of course, there is the whole issue of how to launch your online course successfully and continue to market it over time. I agree – mostly. I work at a company this size. This is pretty informal, but the consistent face to face gives us opportunities to talk frequently about how things are going. Just wanted to say my friends and I had a fantastic time using Popflash 4-5 years ago to organize our ten mans. Maybe not a big deal if you don’t have a lot of courses and the courses you have aren’t all that large. If you want to help grow the mentorship and community which is startupacademy.org then check it out and spread the love. The question is: in your opinion, would any of the platforms or plugins be better than others for such purpose? with simplicity, and an always eager-to-help support team. – Jeff. ... (and sell to) them without having to spend a dime on traffic! I find smaller or more experimental companies to be much more unstable, and in my thirties I just want something stable and nice so I can save money and retire with a bit over a million in the bank at 40. 10+ Demos Features Christopher – Depends on you budget and how confident you are in enrollments/growth. Had a very nice visit to Asheville recently. Some people love the perceived stability of a large company. This sums up my thoughts as well. Ad absurdum: is it possible to upload them to ALL learning sites / platforms? I am in the process of testing them, I will return to the thread to let you know my experience. At most big companies I have seen perf to be a major headache. I want a platform that allows for live teaching where I can either see the individuals (as I teach self-care/body work), hear the individuals and their questions (but they see me), and/or get their chats (latter being less desirable – other two being more as they create a real live classroom feeling). Course Cats was born out of his own frustration with trying to make WordPress – which is great for so many things – into an easy-to-use platform for hosting online courses. By Jeff Cobb Last Updated: January 16, 2021. A million in bank is like $35,000 a year in interest. None of the LMS’s seem to address this adequately. It costs nothing, and it will help you make the right choice faster and smarter. – Jeff. Will teachable be as supportive, why did you them the especial nod? Once you’ve got a license, LearnDash offers a range of integrations and add-ons –WooCommerce, bbPress, Stripe, and Zapier, among many others – for free. I am curious to know if any others have a community building around them where the instructors can help share students? In the UK My ISA portfolio is yielding at 3.2 from when I last did the sums - this is ignoring any capital gains. Thanks for this article. It is an odd conundrum and one I have been thinking about while I am putting together my content. They are redoing their pricing and have finally stopped providing free previews of courses. Courses . We tried Moodle and were OK w/ it except that there were security issues. Heights Platform is geared towards helping you create and sell online courses using your own branded platform and a custom domain. Since everyone is freelancers, most work for other clients or have regular full-time jobs. – Jeff. They're just bad at it. You won't have access to Amazon and be able to buy all the top notch gear for your new hobbies in a week like as a tech worker in the US, but you can have a nice house with cleaning staff, a nice car or just take Uber or private cars everywhere, and do fancy dining two or three times per week. Great resources Jeff. Hey Jeff Cobb, you done a great job at providing a well rounded list of online education websites. That means living on less money than you can make. The exception is Ruzuku, which does have those abilities built in. $MEGACORP isn't all bad. I’m so excited about doing this and your site it so informative I’m so glad to have met you. Barbara – Thanks for noting that. I too like many of you am overwhelmed. This basically means either Southeast Asia, or some parts of Latin America. You might want to try a service like ScormFly: https://www.scormfly.com. You would just point it to your new site. love this article. Thanks for including SkyPrep! As long as you can export the customer list from the old system (with their passwords) and then import it into the new system you are fine. It would seem that the best venue for someone like me would be one that relieved me of the responsibility and need to do something I can’t do (market/sell). Content is a bigger question. – Jeff. I just found it while googling, same way I found this one 🙂 ), I’ve organized this post into the following categories of online course platforms: It may seem like a no-brainer, but just having a clear idea of which of the categories above you fall in – along with knowing that only a  small  subset of online course platforms are meant for selling course – will make your life MUCH easier. To continue getting updates and support, there is an annual renewal fee that is half of the initial license fee. If you are going to create a large number of courses or if you really need your courses to follow e-learning standards like SCORM, you may want to be careful about using the tools in an online course platform. I think that’s reasonable. Once you are a partner, you’ll also get compensated for new Premium Members ($10 per) you bring to Skillshare through your Teacher Referral link. I see a lot of slick advertising with pictures of the supporting staff shown as all being young, very diverse, affluent, and attractive and they only have a first name. The release notes hadn’t even been emailed to users yet, so no harm. This is a great place for leadership to exist; if instead you take the lead from N, and the lead from M, you reduce it back to a 1-on-1 meeting, and then each of those individuals can go back to their teams with what was decided, and have 1xN and 1xM communication. Equities don't keep growing indefinitely without underlying economic growth, and GDP represents that economic growth. While the feature sets are relatively similar, they can be very different in their “look and feel” as well as in how focused they are on helping course entrepreneurs succeed – e.g., by providing good resources, educational content, strong support. Is there any way that I keep using my own domain but integrate with multiple platforms listed above? I’m not aware that you can create/deliver whatever you want on Udacity – you basically have to be selected by them or one of their partners to do a course. I had a lot of meetings at Netflix (was there for 5.5 years, left in July). That’s maybe already a thing. It works and costs nothing but I often wish for a more streamlined way to complete assessments. ), More importantly, you get a set of tools that will help you create a vibrant learning community for your learners, like: Both with a continued downward trend since at least the 60's? Still not cool. Most of the sources described above are either web-based/ clud based platforms. There are trade-offs on all of these, of course. I’m just going to throw my two cents in here after seeing so much negative stuff about Udemy. If you rely on those tools heavily, then you will have to redo quite a bit when you go to a new platform. Yes, that's the most straight-forward model - companies paying posting the jobs. After they have studied the material, they go back to my website and take a test, it they pass with 70% I submit the credits to the IRS and then I send the student a certificate of completion that they can download and keep in their file. We would love to show you a demo some time if you had a spare hour or so, be great to get your detailed thoughts. I’m afraid I don’t have an answer for this one – at least not in the Udemy model. I have more experience with some of the online course platforms listed here than others, but I have vetted them all at a high level to make sure – based on my decades of experience – that they seem like a good fit for edupreneurs and smaller education and training businesses that want to sell online courses. Also, strong, small teams usually don't scale well - which is why they sell themselves to megacorps who can (e.g. I also want to be able to sell webinars and other courses on the same platform. I’m shopping for a platform to run a writing course and am looking for something that can do the following: We dont need to sell anything, but would love to track which video’s get watched most so that we know where the interest or pain points are for the product. Speaking of long shots, I'm looking for exactly this setup with a Clojure(script) stack. It does not matter if you would like to sell art online for extra spending money or if you are trying to build a career being an artist, you will want to take some time and become familiar with the startup plan. It’s chock full of tools and tips to help edupreneurs with all aspects of creating and growing a successful online course business. It's certainly not for everyone, but you get an enormous amount of influence and autonomy. You can set a time for creating your digital courses like PowerPoint presentations, videos, ebooks, etc. Drop Us A Line →. Hi Jeff. Why ... so you can be labelled a malcontent, non-team player, denied promotions and eventually managed out of the org at first opportunity? A contractor can still be "full-time", but they aren't technically an FTE. (Gumroad sales dashboard screenshot) Now I'm going to tell you everything, from the very beginning, so strap in. Just to help you narrow the choices, I would recommend starting with Teachable or Thinkific (both listed above) – Jeff. Amazing post, and pretty useful list for online course creators. You can definitely get more than a few servers for $120/month. The other instance is where that 1xN or 1xM meeting feels unproductive. In my opinion, is does not matter which platform you use or can afford if you do not know how to sell your courses online then you will waste your time/money. EZ LCMS is not free, but it looks like a serious answer to this question. We have more than 1 million registered users. There is so much choice out there, the more you read the more confusing things become. I’ve written in more detail about what an LMS is here. TalentLMS is a good platform. I cannot tell what is right for me. For the pretty angry instructors on Udemy pricing model, i’d like to suggest Kunerango (http://www.kunerango.com/en/landing). I was originally thinking of setting up everything through WordPress but am now gravitating towards Thinkific. Promotion is not necessarily role-oriented in the sense that you don't get promoted out of being an engineer into management or something like that, they are different parallel tracks. Indefinitely. Basically nothing can be done / no decisions made without a meeting. Can anyone help in suggesting ways in which we can sell our courses with discount websites, such as amazon.local and places like that? Or alternatively – do people mix and match platforms. How about MATRIX LMS? Hope that helps. In your review of Udemy, you say that classes must be priced between $20 and $50. All of the online learning platforms listed here are strong choices, but I know it can be helpful for an expert to just say “look at this one, it’s a top choice” if you want to sell  courses. Since the discussion is related to creating and selling courses online. For me, working for a /particular/ startup is unstable and risky, while working for startups generally has been extremely stable. In any event, I don’t think there is any doubt that they are in it for the long haul. and the best advantage that the registration is free of fees!!! Udemy knows what interest their customers. I think we all try to do what's best for each person. It's one of the reasons I still remain bullish on the strengths of small companies: large ones just begin attracting people who apparently enjoy frittering their education and talents away on pointless zoom calls. It got started out of frustration with Udemy (listed below) – in particular, with the way in which Udemy controls information about and access to students. Today I am using LearnDash to create a site for my 4000-person active senior community and the cost will be more like $15,000. I have used educational platforms but not the current offerings that are overwhelming me when trying to make this decision. Many good solutions out there – I’m adding ours to the pile – worldclass.io is a platform with built in quizzing, MOOC, gamification and commerce modules + rich analytics and user mgmt. I want to create my first online program with videos and power point presentations and PDF files. You can create and manage your own UDEMY, Lynda etc. Dainis – Thanks for commenting. Ask HN: Which companies work like Gumroad? Do you think it’s better to sell courses on your own website or to sell them on another. Any of the platforms here could, in theory, do what you describe. This will have a direct impact on the business. In practice today, I suspect an engineer at Elastic will spend an average of ~2 hours a week in a meeting, with a few spending a great deal more than that and others spending less. The Music Maker WordPress Theme is a powerful website template that allows you to sell beats, music, loops, products, and more. It’s a very important factor when deciding to go for any course platform. (Here’s our full Thinkific review.). Kay – I don’t know of any place where you can simply list a course that is for sale, and I’m not sure how effective that would actually be. I was not notified of the comment for some reason. I’m social media based craft business looking for a landing spot to direct customers to video tutorials for purchase. – Robust integrations with tools like Segment.io, Mailchimp and Mixpanel Thinkific provides a truly full-featured software solution to help you create, deliver, and market and sell online courses. Are you aware if most of the successful sites go with the standard monthly membership fees or do they go with a one-time purchase to get lifetime access? The option to expand is certainly one I want to keep available as a possible long-term goal. Mainly, I want a clear means of offering and selling the courses and registering new students. Possibly some subsequent courses as advanced learning to the original mastercourse. Hi thanks for the very useful post. They were claiming $50-250 per hour with as little as 10 hours a week. What it really comes down to is whether they have everything you feel you really need to support both your learning and business model. They are made to deliver internal corporate training or to support academic programs. I cover a couple of plug-ins above to add e-commerce capabilities to Moodle (the native ones are not so hot). FIRE is a high-risk strategy. Looking into Uscreen and Muvi… but I might be wrong. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25673275 I was wondering if you could add / review our platform as well for the creation of mobile courses: https://www.guidiance.com, Jeff, Have you checked out Thinkific? It usually takes us most of an hour to get through our reviews, and I don't feel like we have an unusually high number of deliverables (10-15 tickets on average maybe, representing 1 or 2 larger projects and a small batch of regressions/spikes/featurelets, for a 3-dev team). If you only focus on being good at what you do professionally, you may see lot of money flowing through your hands, but the part that you don't spend will somehow disappear anyway. Hi Jeff, great job you did on this post (it’s been going on for quite a while now ). I believe politics are a side product of humans working together. These are large companies so there is really no one overall experience, especially at MS. Oh and I was an IC at both companies. (eg Rainmaker, Academy Mine…). As far as I can tell, ScormLMS isn’t really focused on that, but let me know if I am missing something. Related interesting read but looks good only on paper - https://hbr.org/2016/06/how-facebook-tries-to-prevent-office... To me, that mindset sounds a bit like office politics itself -- i mean, using a negatively loaded word for branching a bit outside one's usual work tasks. That's honestly such a pleasure to hear, especially on HN of all places. Note, also, that you don’t actually lose use of the software if you don’t review – you just don’t get upgrades and support. More recently, the company has repositioned as a full-featured, but easy-to-use platform for selling online courses, memberships, and digital downloads in one place – and it has been gaining a lot of momentum.

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